Making the N1s faster

Because this is, and probably will ever be the #1 question asked, and the corresponding FAQ entry got by far the most hits, here it is: The dedicated Making the N1s faster post.

First, it’s not for the faint hearted: If you have two left hands and 10 thumbs, if you’re scared about loosing warranty and/or getting into trouble with your local authorities then don’t do it.
Still it can be informative how it’s been done over in China 😉

Theory…

As there is no (known) way to directly “patch” the original NIU controller (in China they call it “CPU”), a different route was taken  making the N1s faster:  Add a second controller – often called a ‘dual controller setup‘ – and have him talking to the motor while the original controller faces the rest of the system and keeps everybody happy 😉

Depending on the 2nd controller used, the new limits for the three modes will be 20, 43 and ~70km/h…

…and Practice

Now that you know how it works in theory here’s the shopping list. You’ll need:

  • A 2nd brushless DC motor controller. Most people tend to prefer the model 72152 (max 60km/h) or 72182 (70km/h) from Ling Bo.
  • A ‘Y-cable’, spitting the signals from the main system to both controllers (and back)
  • (optional) a mounting-plate for both controllers
  • Courage, some handyman talent and about 30-60 minutes time

All righty… still sure about making the N1s faster? So let’s have a look at the parts one by one:

El Cheffe… the controller.

As mentioned in the shopping list, most tuners use controllers from Ling Bo, namely the models 72152 and 72182 – or LBMC 072152/072182 as they’re officially called. They are no unknown players in the market, you might have met them looking into an Unu scooter for example.
While the 72152 is good for ~60km/h the 72182 will squeeze out up to 70km/h.

There are many models around, so this for example is the 72182:

The Y-Cable

While just a bunch of boring cables, it’s a very important part of the job. Some plugs are so special, you won’t get them anywhere in Europe.
Also pictured the (optional) RS232-to-USB converter for programming the LingBo controller.

Mounting plate

Some Chinese how-tos completely work without one of those. But I’d say it’s safer/cleaner to use one.
It’s been placed where the original NIU controller was originally mounted and offers screw-holes for a side-by-side mounting of both controllers…

…like so:

Put together

The whole cabling looks something like this:

The loose/tangling cable contains the Hall lines:

  • Red, black, blue, green, yellow: to the 72152/72182 controller
  • Black, blue, green, yellow, to the NIU controller

So both do their work, but the motor is only connected to the LingBo controller.

Both controllers are also connected to a small PCB featuring 3 ports, namely P1, P2, P3:

  • P1: connects 72152/72182 controller
  • P2: connects to the bus on the scooter
  • p3: connects the original NIU controller

Videos

It’s hard to embed videos from Chinese portals… so all I can do for now offering links to some crappy how-to videos:

http://video.tudou.com/v/XMjQ2NzczMjEyMA==.html
(having some Michael Jackson, too :-/)

another one, controllers side-by-side with sticky tape:

http://video.tudou.com/v/453758197.html (currently broken 🙁 )

Ling Bo hacking/Software

Finally – and this is work in progress – you can program the Lingbo controller pretty freely. That said: You can kill things pretty easy, too.

As mentioned above, you can connect a PC to the controller through USB (or even Bluetooth!).
The data line driver and debugging software can be downloaded here:
http://www.lingbo-mc.com/upLoad/down/month_1511/201511251655443034.rar

This archive contains some PDF docs (different controller) but also the Windows .exe, USB drivers and an Android apk to use the BT connection for the fearless beneath you guys – But like the romans said: cave canem!

More to come… stay tuned 😉

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  • #1079
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    Because this is, and probably will ever be the #1 question asked, and the corresponding FAQ entry got by far the most hits, it had to be done: The dedicated making-it-faster-post available here: http://www.myniu.org/making-the-n1s-faster/

    As the comments thread grew longer and longer, there was the wish to create a forum thread – and as you know, your wish is my command 😉
    So its been copied over here to make it more readable and make formatting, attachments etc. possible…

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  • #1080
    Mattijn Stegeman
    Mattijn Stegeman
    Participant

    Good one!

    I was wondering what controller I should buy. I want to go ~60km/h. I don’t want to go too fast because it will drain the battery for sure. And can this always be put back without losing guarantee?

    Thank you for this article!!!

  • #1081
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    Yeah, first and foremost, this “mod” is totally reversible. Just remove the 2nd controller and Y-cable, reconnect the original one to the motor and everything’s as before. But as always: If you killed your motor/battery using this tunig method, reversing won’t help… I have to say that, right? 😉

    It’s actually difficult to say what model you should choose. For just 60km/h the 72152 should be sufficient.
    But to my understanding you can completely program the Ling Bo controller… and because the price difference is just $30, I’d go for the 72182 like offered in
    this kit. You could then limit the ‘oooomp’ through software then.
    OTOH it’s not very well documented (yet)… working on it.

  • #1082
    Mattijn Stegeman
    Mattijn Stegeman
    Participant

    Sure, burning the motor/battery is your own responsibility.

    It should be perfect if the speed can be limited by a simple switch.. Do you know if this is posibble already?

    It’s not possible to change parameters inside the current NIU controller?

  • #1083
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    Not out-of-the-box. That said, you can connect to the controller through Bluetooth (using a rs232-to-bt adapter).
    So theoretically it should be possible to change profiles on the fly… I’ve added a link for downloading an archive with docs, the software and an Android APK for Bluetooth control. Use at your own risk 😉

  • #1084
    Mattijn Stegeman
    Mattijn Stegeman
    Participant

    Thank you very much! You’re doing a great job mate.

    The only thing for me is to make sure I do have the type “X” controller. Do you know if the controllers from this link; https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=526970879733 contain the type “X” controller?

    And what about the Wire-harness.. What gen. is suitable for the NIU N1S 2018? Makes it any difference?

    I’m also very curious about your mapping? Do you already did some tuning?

  • #1085
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    First of all, I don’t have such controller nor did I mod my N1s (yet). I’m just the messenger, so don’t shoot me 😉
    Also I have no idea if something got changed with the electronics of the 2018 models – but I doubt it. To me, those are more facelifts with different programming.
    The “X” type mentioned in the PDF files inside the archive are something I never read about before. Not sure if that’s really needed. All the Chinese how-tos I saw did never mention such as a must-have.

  • #1086
    Marco Plechaty
    Marco Plechaty
    Participant

    First of all, thank you for this article !

    I own a NIU M1 pro 2017 and wanted to know, if this controller thing is the same in this Model or not. Maybe you have some Informations about this ? Or is there a Kit like the one for N1S?

  • #1087
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    I have no clue about the controller used in the M1, but I’m sure that theoretically this method should work in the M1, too.
    The cable harness is most likely different… have you tired searching e.g. Taobao for M1 controllers?

  • #1088
    Marco Plechaty
    Marco Plechaty
    Participant

    In my opinion, this way really should work too for the M1 model.
    But there is no Kit on Taobao or anywhere else to buy like for the N1S model 😢
    Searched for it 2 hours online ..

  • #1089
    Mattijn Stegeman
    Mattijn Stegeman
    Participant

    Of course going 80km/h will drain your battery. I found this battery on Taobao. What do you guys think?

    https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.201.242c1b1eHW078l&id=540740991940&ns=1&abbucket=7#detail

  • #1090
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster
  • #1091

    Kpout

    Any news about M1 ?

  • #1092
    Andre F
    Andre Fuegner
    Participant

    Thank you so much for putting this NIU page together!
    I live in Shanghai now for 2 years and happily ride a NIU N1S Sport (1200 W engine, 60 Volt 26 A battery) now for close to 2 years and 2700 km. After reading your article I ordered an N1S 72182 Controller with the 2 Y cables and mounting plate from Taobao. Installation was pretty easy, took 90 minutes. Here are the changes:
    Factory setup scooter on main stand speed test:
    1. “gear” 19 km/h
    2. “gear” 39 km/h
    3. “gear” 53 km/h
    Real world riding up to 53 km/h with full battery.
    Dual controller setup (72182 added) scooter on main stand speed test:
    1. “gear” 38 km/h
    2. “gear” 58 km/h
    3. “gear” 78 km/h
    Real world riding top speed run 62 km/h lying on seat. Acceleration feels way stronger and punchier now up to 50 km/h. Above 50 km/h it runs out of power and more speed builds slowly.
    It might work better with a smaller 50 kg rider and not a 100 kg 1.90m one…
    Next maybe a the NIU 1500 W or 3rd party 2000 W motor…
    Again thank you so much…

  • #1093
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    Woo-hoo! Thanks for the update! Happy to hear that it worked, and happy to help!

  • #1094
    Humphrey Van Lee
    Humphrey van Lee
    Participant

    Do you have a direct link on Toabao for what I should order? I’m completely lost with the Chinese. What should I buy (and how?) … NIU N1S

  • #1095
    Humphrey Van Lee
    Humphrey van Lee
    Participant
  • #1096
    Andre F
    Andre Fuegner
    Participant

    You can use the Google Chrome Browser and turn on automatic translation of Chinese to your Native language. That helps a lot navigating Taobao. I bought from this Taobao shop:

    https://h5.m.taobao.com/awp/core/detail.htm?id=562768601125&spm=a2141.7c.123456.d1&main_itemid=565825575329&go_item_id=562768601125&scm=1007.10765.82697.&pvid=8102ce6c-4082-41e4-951f-efc39c412bf0

    With Taobao you need a working Ali Pay account. I do not know how do you order items from Taobao outside of China, since I live in Shanghai now. However there is also an international Taobao page. It should be possible to order from there. There might/will be additional costs for shipping and import/customs.

  • #1097
    Humphrey Van Lee
    Humphrey van Lee
    Participant

    Very helpful, thanks! I just ordered it, at least, I pressed confirmed multiple times. Got myself the controller, cable and plate. (And a backrest in Matt black to match my scooter) I’ll let you know how it goes. 🙂

  • #1098
    John Mikel
    John Mikel
    Participant

    Great post ! I was looking on TaoBao some controllers and found 3 types… 72152 -> 60 Kmh / 72182 -> 70Kmh / 72252 -> ?? Kmh
    Any clue about 72252 ?

  • #1099
    NIUAndy
    NIUAndy
    Participant

    I ordered and just got the 72182 Kit. Unfortunately the EU4 Controller of the N1S has no 6pin connector so the y-cable can Not be installed and whole Thing seems so have Compleately different wiring…

  • #1100
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    Oh boy, thanks for the update and sorry for the disappointment.
    Could you probably post some pictures? Maybe it’s just a “plug issue” which needs another adapter.

  • #1101
    John Mikel
    John Mikel
    Participant

    Same issue here my controller doesn’t have the 6 pin connector but I’m sure there can be a workaround with the second generation of controllers shown on taobao? Did your seller provide a solution?

  • #1102
    Martin Miklavcic
    Martin Miklavcic
    Participant

    The slow acceleration at high speed is IMHO just caused by the fact that on an electric motors torque is high on low RPM but flattens on higher revs.

    PS: will get my N1s soon, so happy I found this forum!

  • #1103
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    Glad you’re enjoying this page! And soon your little N1s, too 😉

  • #1104
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    Hey Andre, what model of the N1s do you have? 2018? 2017? (You gear controller is straight and black or round and gray?
    Could you give some more information about the whole installing process of the new ECU?
    Thanks

  • #1105

    Anonymous

    Another shop here (English):

    https://www.yoycart.com/Product/536332876560/

    Dunno about the variants “perfect” , “perfect function” and “easy to use” though. They have tables with functions and recommendations, but those are jpegs and all Chinese.

  • #1106
    Quben Sita
    Quben
    Participant

    How did it go with you installation?

  • #1107

    Celso

    Hi Andre, cool another Shanghai rider, can you add me on wechat: Celso74?

    so you think the 1200W motor is the issue for a heavier passenger, I tried one with a 1200W motor that went 75 km with me on it at 1.86cm / 95KG. It did have 3 batteries to make it even heavier so maybe some other tweaks can be made?

  • #1108

    JaapL

    Any news or options on the 2018 model of the N1S already?

  • #1109
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    I guess everything about the “news” are reported already. New cockpit and handlebars and minor things like footmat and spring-out footrests. That’s more or less it.

  • #1110

    Obstler

    I guess what the poster was asking for — or anyway, what I’m asking for now, is there any news regarding replacement speed controllers etc. for the 2018 EU4 models?

  • #1111

    helloKitty

    what about the N1S Pro version. 1500W motor. would be interesting to see how that ECU can perform.

    (those are hard to find scooters, just saw they are sold again in China)
    I live in Xiamen, will try to get one.

  • #1112
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    AFAIK the Pro series are not going to be sold to the international market. We’ll get the GT and GTX over here…

  • #1113

    Cactus-online

    How affects the higher speed / the new controller the range?

  • #1114
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    User “Andre F.” might be able to share some experience here…

  • #1115

    Obstler

    Here there is a “for the design after March 2018”

    https://www.ebuy7.com/item/ecfjgbacjghh

    anyone know if this will work with the 2018 european models?

  • #1116

    Jan Flyckt Hansen

    tnx. for nice info. best regards from Denmark

  • #1117
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    You’re more than welcome, Jan!

  • #1118
    Leo Geur
    Leo

    Axel,

    I’m looking to up the speed of my Unu scooter that is now limited to 25km/h (dutch law prevents you from wearing a helmet).
    But all normal scooters are legally limited to 32 km/h so everybody passes me;)
    I’ve torn the Unu’s computer apart and it looks very similar to the N1 pictures on this page. Will this second controller also work on the UNU 3000W version?

    Kind regards,
    Leo

  • #1119
    Alex Schwarz
    Oliver Baumann

    Why is nobody selling this as a plug and play setup for the 2018 models? I would be willing to pay 300€ if I can just order it and install it…

  • #1120
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    Well, in Europe you might get in legal trouble by selling it… that said, China is a different story.

  • #1121
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    Unu … well, while that’s a tooooootalyyyyyy different league (not ;-)) – theoretically a 2nd parallel controller should work as well. All you need is a proper cable harness which keeps the main-controller happy while the added DC motor-controller has the correct connection to the motor. I.e. you need a wiring-map.

  • #1122
    Alex Schwarz
    Oliver

    You can sell it for experimental use only and in the end it is the buyers choice to drive with it on public roads. Maybe I have a big private property where I need a faster NIU… 😀

  • #1123
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    I don’t think it’s illegal to sell. You can legally bua all sorts of tuning stuff for motorbikes and cars. It’s then your responsibility to use it or not.
    I guess we are just so few, nobody gives too much attention to after sale stuff. I am starting to see way more UNU scooters around (I don’t really like their look), I wonder if they can be tuned up.

  • #1124
    Leo Geur
    Leo

    I did some more research and the Unu 3000W models have the LBMC072352 units in them. So I guess with the normal Ling Bo software you should be able to manipulate them. How and what to alter in the software I don’t know. Maybe Axel knows…
    The only thing missing to connect the LBMC072352 with your computer is an USB cable, I just ordered it from this site; https://www.yoycart.com/Product/536687560717/
    I hope I can connect it and program it with my computer.

  • #1125
    NIUAndy
    NIUAndy
    Participant

    I ordered the „V3 after March 2018“ version to test…should get the first testing results in a few days

  • #1126
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    Uhh, that’s cool and exciting! Looking forward for your report 😉

  • #1127

    Sunny

    I am looking forward to your review. I will probably order it as well. I wonder if it can be programmed like the Lingbo controllers to go 60 km/h and not 70. That would make it still somewhat legal.

  • #1128
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    Hey Andy, looking very much forward to your review! Could you share the link of this V3 you are talking about? Cheers

  • #1129

    Anonymous

    For those who have received a 182-kit and cannot use it because of missing 6-pin hall control plug: I do have matching controller layout. I can buy your kit. Offers per email to x.10.myniu@spamgourmet.com
    I am in Germany. Will pay per SEPA transfer.

  • #1130
    Mattijn Stegeman
    Mattijn Stegeman
    Participant

    I’m Looking very very forward! Want to speed up my Niu N1s after 4000km so badly…

  • #1131
    RickT
    RickT

    Enrico, maybe it’s this one posted earlier by Obstler?
    https://www.ebuy7.com/item/ecfjgbacjghh
    I’d love to know too.

  • #1132
    Humphrey Van Lee
    Humphrey van Lee
    Participant

    That one looks good, single controller. Connection looks correct. Gonna look into it too..

  • #1133
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    Very cool, this looks good. But does it go together with the actual controller or it substitutes it? I wonder if it is plug and play…

  • #1134
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    Ok, I have just ordered one….. I hope it’s not scam or the thing is useless. Can’t wait to try…. 🙂

  • #1135
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    So one of my main concerns right now, before I even receive and install the thing, is if NIU finds out as soon as the scooter connects to them…

  • #1136

    Jaap L

    Any update Andy? Save us 🙂

  • #1137
    Sunny B
    Sunny

    I really doubt that they care. This method of using two controllers for more speed has been used since the N1 was first introduced in China – so there are many scooters out there that have this installed. Of course you probably lose your warranty.

  • #1138
    Sunny B
    Sunny

    I think you still need to use two controllers at once.

  • #1139
    Sunny B
    Sunny

    I researched more – you may be right – it looks like it is a complete replacement.

    Here’s a video I found of how to dismantle the Niu to get to the controller:
    https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTY3MTE5OTUwNA==.html?spm=a2h0j.8191423.module_basic_relation.5~5!2~5~5!3~5~5~A

  • #1140
    NIUAndy
    NIUAndy
    Participant

    I now have the correct controller. Sadly it is not working because the cable is not correct (what the supplier said) i will have to wait some more days for the new cable…

  • #1141
    Sunny B
    Sunny

    So is it a complete replacement or is it installed in parallel to the original controller?

    • #1247
      John Mikel
      John Mikel
      Participant

      Hi Andy,

      I ordered back in June another controller (Lingbo 72252) but the hall cables were missing and wasn’t able to connect it with the supplied cables back to the original controller to boost the speed. The chinese shop told be this controller is for the maverick not the niu N1S. So if you have any luck or other kind of cables or any other hack I guess i won’t be the only one to be interested… Keep us in the loop mate ! 🙂

  • #1142
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    Andy, I have ordered the same kit yesterday. Was it a mistake from them? Or I need to order a special cable? Let me know if I need to correct my order right away!
    Could you please post some photos?
    Thanks mate!

  • #1143
    NIUAndy
    NIUAndy
    Participant

    It is, as far as i understood, a complete replacement. So the original controller is no longer needed. In my case they told me that there is a New cable available since this week and the old could be the problem i have now.

  • #1144
    J Van Buren
    Jos Brey
    Participant

    So what parts do I need excatly?
    Thanks

  • #1145
    RickT
    RickT

    Thanks for the update ANDY.

    Enrico, I hope your purchase works out. Fingers crossed.

  • #1146
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    Axel, do you think we could move this conversation to the forum so we can post photos in future posts? This is getting interesting 😉

    • #1222
      Axel
      Axel
      Keymaster

      Voilá! And now go crazy and spoil us with your photos and stuff  😀

  • #1224
    Sunny B
    Sunny
    Participant

    Great idea!

  • #1279
    NIUAndy
    NIUAndy
    Participant

    Good News, guys…

    New replacement Controller for 2018 Version and new cable including another black boxed Controller which seems to alter the original Signal in any way works!

    N1S now drives about 75kmh Maximum if you have few hundret meters for acceleration.

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  • #1281
    Giovanni Micheloni
    giovanni micheloni
    Participant

    Hi andy

    could you post the web site were you buy the items and specify exactly what to buy?

    thanks

     

    • #1285
      Enrico Atwork
      Enrico Atwork
      Participant

      Hey Andy, that’s great news!

      I just received mine and will install it this weekend. Anything I should know before I start? The instructions in the box are quite basic. Did you take a photo of the completed installation?

      Cheers.

  • #1284
    RickT
    RickT
    Participant

    That’s awesome Andy. Reckon you could post some photos?

  • #1286
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    So, here are some photos of what I received from China (split in two posts).

    PS: at first I thought I bought cakes instead of a controller. :-)))

     

    Again, here’s the link: https://www.ebuy7.com/item/574038970322

    Then you have to choose the right model for you. I also bought the data cable, but still no idea how to use it, there are no instructions.

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  • #1291
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    Some more photos…. Andy, does it look like yours?

     

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  • #1298
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    By the way, if any of you is in Berlin, you can come and join me for the installation…

    • #1326
      Fuci
      Fuci
      Participant

      So, here are some photos of what I received from China (split in two posts). PS: at first I thought I bought cakes instead of a controller. :-)))

      Hi Enrico,
      have you found a way to share the installation videos?

      I also want to buy a controller from the link you’ve posted:
      link: https://www.ebuy7.com/item/574038970322
      Is the requiered cable set included with the controller?

      Have you been able to gain experience on the road?

      Greets Ben

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  • #1299
    RickT
    RickT
    Participant

    Thanks for the photos, Enrico. Good luck! That is the “Replacement Control Of V3 After March 18” correct?

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    • #1301
      Enrico Atwork
      Enrico Atwork
      Participant

      Yes, that is what they state. Although I have not yet opened my N1 to verify that everything is correct.

  • #1303
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    So, I have installed the new controller to do some testing and IT WORKS indeed!

    Here are some photos of the process. First, you see the original controller and how it is installed in a 2018 model. Comparing the two controllers, you can see that the new one is bigger, which is a bit of a problem, as you will not be able to tie again with four screws. You can only put one screw in, then I used some tape to hold it in place. It seems pretty stable, I will check in a few weeks. You also have to fix the little box, but there’s space on the right side, so I taped it there.

    Once you power the scooter again, evrythinglooks exactly the same. A first speed test on the stand gives me 29kmh on mode 1, 58kmh on mode 2 and 97kmh (!!) on mode 3.

    I couldn’t test it on the road, but I think your weight will affect mode 3.

    I would have to test also the battery life in mode 2 and 3 and see how much we lose in range.

    Of course, please remember that this only for testing and it is illegal to circulate with it!

    Here are some photos.

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  • #1308
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    One last thing to say, the app works well even after the controller change. The battery level was read correctly and the GPS position was found on the app.

    Cheers.

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  • #1313
    Axel
    Axel
    Keymaster

    So, here are some photos of what I received from China (split in two posts). PS: at first I thought I bought cakes instead of a controller. :-)))

    Really love the packaging… timeless! 😀

    And great post about your success with your “experiment” – big thumbs up!

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    • #1316
      Enrico Atwork
      Enrico Atwork
      Participant

      So, here are some photos of what I received from China (split in two posts). PS: at first I thought I bought cakes instead of a controller. :-)))

      Really love the packaging… timeless!

      I know man, a bit scary at first, but I must say the seller was helpful and even sent me some installation videos. 🙂

      By the way, any way I can share the videos on the forum?

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    • #1318
      Guillaume L
      Guillaume L
      Participant

      Thanks a lot Enrico. I live in Paris and i will be happy to test this mod too.

      For the video i think you can upload it on youtube and post the link.

       

    • #1325
      Axel
      Axel
      Keymaster

      Linking Chinese video-portal videos is always a pain in the ass. As Guillaume suggested, use YT as a “hub”…

      BTW: Quite some users asked me about a reliable source for the controller and some kind of shopping-list.
      Can you be so kind and share your supplier etc.?

      Cheers, Axel

  • #1319
    Giovanni Micheloni
    giovanni micheloni
    Participant

    Good day

    this question is for the moderator of this forum and it’s about how to know the manufacture date of the bike.

     

    this is to order the correct device for the speed upgrade

     

    thanks

    • #1323
      Axel
      Axel
      Keymaster

      Hi Giovanni,

      AFAIK only NIU knows the exact build date of your scooter. But you should be able to figure out your model-year by looking at the documents you got from your dealer… or just compare the features with those described in this post.

      Cheers, Axel

  • #1328
    Fuci
    Fuci
    Participant

    Hi Enrico,

    have you found a way to share the installation videos?

    I also want to buy a controller from the link you’ve posted:
    https://www.ebuy7.com/item/574038970322

    Is the requiered cable set included with the controller?

    Have you been able to gain experience on the road?

    Greets Ben

  • #1336
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    Hi, I don’t have a Youtube Channel, so here you can download the videos:

    https://wetransfer.com/downloads/4928c56d72c12068a190b35d312c961320180917151623/38e08b

    Maybe some of you can upload them and share the permanent link?

    To answer Ben’s question: you just need to buy the controller kit for your scooter model and everything will be included in the box. I also bought the data cable but I had no use for it. There are no instructions so I don’t know how and when to use it. Maybe the video explains it, but it is in Chinese.

    As for driving experience:

    – Mode 1: 35kmh approx.

    – Mode 2: 58kmh approx.

    – Mode 3: I haven’t had enough time or space to test. After 60kmh the speed increase is veeery slow, you need a large distance. Then again, I’m almost 100kg, that counts.

    Battery wise, I suspect you lose a bit, but not too much. I always calculated 6km each 10%, right now it could around 5.5km. But I need more time to test.

    App is working normally.

    Cheers

    • #1517
      Jens Storm
      Jens777
      Participant

      I ordered the same controller as you and installed the it today. It’s bigger than the original, but I got it in place.

      It works, but only on settings 1 & 2 (max 53 km/h). I can’t select the higest speed no 3. So, It’s not that much faster. Is that a problem you have heard of?
    • #1575
      Quben Sita
      Quben
      Participant

      Jens – Still same problem? If yes i would uninstall everything and start all over from the beginning. Be sure to press all connectors together firmly.

    • #1576
      Jens Storm
      Jens777
      Participant

      Yes, I have installed it 3 times. After some initial confusing advice from the seller, it turns out it was correctly installed the first time. Everything works as expected except that I can’t select mode 3. When I re-install the original controller mode 3 works as normal. The seller will send instructions on how to configure the controller. To be updated…

  • #1393
    Quben Sita
    Quben
    Participant

    Hi, i ordered from the link supplied by Enrico and installed it today. Works like a charm. My N1S is manufactured 201801 (according to Swedish Transportstyrelsen). When i ordered the seller asked me to send photos of the existing controller and i did. The one i received is the same as Enrico got. Installation is easy, only 15 minutes or so.

     

     

    • #1395
      DoC @
      DoC
      Participant

      @Andy and Björn,  were your new controllers also larger than the original?  How did you solve the mounting problem when you can not use the standard fixation?  Any chance to position the new controller 90’ in another direction?

    • #1412
      Quben Sita
      Quben
      Participant

      You take away the old controller and put the new one either in the same direction or turn it 90degrees. I reused one nut to the new controller and some additional duct tape.

    • #1405
      Enrico Atwork
      Enrico Atwork
      Participant

      Congrats Björn, happy to hear that worked for you as well!

      Enjoy.

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  • #1394
    Filip Halak
    pihl
    Participant

    Hi guys. I have a question for those who installed the second controller… Do you reckon the upgrade was worth it, and what speeds do you manage to achieve in normal traffic?

    Thing is, I love my NIU N1S, but I feel it’s a bit slow to keep up with the usual traffic. I have a dilemma of either upgrading my NIU or saving up for a more powerful petrol powered motorcycle/scooter.

    Greetings from Croatia.

    • #1411
      Quben Sita
      Quben
      Participant

      I definitely think the upgrade is worth the money. Speed after upgrade is now between 55km/h to 70km/h depending on conditions. You loose a bit of range though and cruise control is no longer working.

      The replacement controller is a bit bigger than the old one. I used one of the existing nuts and woven tape to keep it fixed and in place.

    • #1413
      Sunny B
      Sunny
      Participant

      quick question: does it accelerate at the same rate as before? Also, is there still that dreaded “TurboLag”, where if you accelerate to 40 kmh and then briefly let go of the throttle, it takes a long time to accelerate again? Thank You!

    • #1420
      Quben Sita
      Quben
      Participant

      Yoram; The acceleration is about the same as before, it’s a bit rougher at start but then it’s as usual. The acceleration after about 55km / h is slow.

    • #1421
      Quben Sita
      Quben
      Participant

      Today we had good conditions in Sweden and  the N1S took me to 85km/h. Not bad at all but also a bit scary…

    • #1432
      Jens Storm
      Jens777
      Participant

      I got my NIU N1S in August, the tTransportstyrelsen states that it is manufactured in January 2018. Sounds lite it’s the same model as yours. Which controller did you buy? The “old” or “new”?

    • #1440
      Quben Sita
      Quben
      Participant

      Same as mine, manufactured 201801. I ordered the new version of the speed box

    • #1497
      Jens Storm
      Jens777
      Participant

      It’s finally here. 👍 Is this the same as you got? Any problems so far? I will get instructions and a video link tomorrow.

    • #1505
      Quben Sita
      Quben
      Participant

      Good luck with installation. Mine works perfect, but as i said before my cruise control is not working and the side stand protection is out of work. Range is also sacrified but i wouldn’t go back to the old setup anyway.

       

    • #1443
      Jens Storm
      Jens777
      Participant

      Thanks! Just to be absolutely sure:

      https://www.ebuy7.com/item/574038970322

      And then, “<em class=”otc-selected-option-text”>Replacement Control Of V3 After March 18”

      What shipping method did you use and how long time did it take to get it?

      When I get it, any chance to contact you for advise on installing it?

       

       

       

       

    • #1445
      Quben Sita
      Quben
      Participant

      Yes, that’s the correct one but they will probably contact you and ask for photos of your existing setup just to be sure. I chosed DHL delivery and i think i got it in a week or so. The setup is very easy and they will send you videos to walk you thru all steps (or you can take a look at the Enricos links above). As stated above the replacement controller is a bit bigger than the old one and also an extra small controller needs to be side by side with the new one. Depending on your skills you can drill new holes or use duct tape. I went for the lazy second tape choice 🙂

      Top speed is now good, but you’ll loose like 10-15% range. Also cruise control is sacrificed. Today when my battery went below 10% the battery counter acted strange and told me i had 0% battery left…

    • #1446
      Sebastian Rothmayer
      Sebastian Rothmayer
      Participant

       Also cruise control is sacrificed.

      Mh thats interesting,because i have Order an other Replacement Controller from NiuTech https://www.ebuy7.com/item/563552512497 (N1S18-IDC Current Strip Version )and i can use it like before.

  • #1399
    Eddy Current
    Eddy Current
    Participant

    Hi forum, I also got this one:

    https://www.ebuy7.com/item/574038970322

    Pls see attached photo for what they sent. I have N1s 2017 model.

    Speeds on the road are 25 in 1st gear, 43 in 2nd gear and 75 in 3rd gear.

    Downsides: 2017 Nius have the turning knob for switching gears. That knob now acts like a push button. Scooter comes on in first gear and I have to turn the switch to position 3 or 1 repeatedly to select 2nd and 3rd gear and down again. Side stand safety switch does not work.

    I will try to program 1st gear to run 55 kph with provided USB connector. Will post results.

    • #1402
      Jesus Morales
      Jesus Morales
      Participant

      Hi Eddy,

      Can you explain again the turning knob fro switching gears problem in 2017 models? I haven’t quiet understood it.

      Thanks!

    • #1408
      Eddy Current
      Eddy Current
      Participant

      @Jesus: pre-2018 models have a three-position stepping switch for gear selection. Controller starts up in whatever gear is selected by that switch. 2018 models have a push button for gear select. Startup is first gear. On every push the gear will change in sequence 1,2,3,2,1,2…

      With replacement controller I have to change switch positions from 3 to one or vice versa in order to change gears. The changes will be in above sequence. Any change between position 1 and three will have same effect as pushing the select button of 2018 models.

      @Enrico: See uploaded picture. They gave me an USB adapter with only pins, connector housing is connected to controller harness. Software is for download at lingbo-mc.com. Alex also posted an archive.

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    • #1414
      Enrico Atwork
      Enrico Atwork
      Participant

      I see, but unfortunately my controller is different and I have no idea where to connect the usb cable. As you can see from the pictures I posted earlier, the cable open, stripped out, you have to connect cables manually on one side and the usb on the other side. Anyways, I am actually happy on how the scooter goes right now. Not crazy fast, but definitely worth the upgrade.

    • #1415
      Eddy Current
      Eddy Current
      Participant

      Do like it says in the picture: unplug everything, plug the cable end with the black UART connector into your controller and push the pins of your USB adapter into the black connector with colors matching. Power for programming will come from your USB. Cannot break anything, only 3.3 Volts.

    • #1417
      Jesus Morales
      Jesus Morales
      Participant

      Okay I got it! Clear answer thanks again!

    • #1403
      Enrico Atwork
      Enrico Atwork
      Participant

      Hey Eddy, congrats on the succeful installation of the new controller. You say you will program it to modify the speeds in each gear. Any info on how to do that? Are you using a special software? How do you connect/communicate with the controller?

      Thanks!

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    • #1427
      Jens Persson
      Jens Persson
      Participant

      @Eddy Current, I guess you ordered the “Replacement Control Before March 16-18” For the 2017 model?

       

  • #1416
    Enrico Atwork
    Enrico Atwork
    Participant

    Do like it says in the picture: unplug everything, plug the cable end with the black UART connector into your controller and push the pins of your USB adapter into the black connector with colors matching. Power for programming will come from your USB. Cannot break anything, only 3.3 Volts.

    Mate, sorry but this is not clear for me (I am no electric expert), nor is the explanation on the picture they sent you from China.

    What is a UART connector?

    Where on the controller are you supposed to plug it?

    “Unplug everything” means take it out from the scooter and just use the black connector and the controller? What about the smaller box?

    If you could be more clear, we would really appreciate it and the whole forum can learn from your experience. Thanks!

    • #1418
      Eddy Current
      Eddy Current
      Participant

      What is a UART connector?[/Quote]

      Universal Asyncronous Receiver Transmitter. Serial data communication protocol. A chip in the USB housing converts it to USB.

      Where on the controller are you supposed to plug it?[/Quote]

      Into the only one socket on the 72182.

      “Unplug everything” means take it out from the scooter and just use the black connector and the controller?[/Quote]

      Correct

      What about the smaller box? [/Quote]

      Leave it alone.

      I noticed that cable colors do not match. Important are red and black for power. You have to try which of the other two are Tx and Rx (sender and receiver)

    • #1419
      Enrico Atwork
      Enrico Atwork
      Participant

      Thanks for the clear explanation.

      Hopefully someone will also be so kind in the future to upload a photo of the actual controller-PC setup. I would do it (and eventually will) but I don’t have access to my scooter until end of October.

    • #1720
      Jens Persson
      Jens Persson
      Participant

      Hi

      Are there someone who har pictures on how to connect the usb cable to the controller?

      Also I can’t find the software on the lingbo site. Where do I find it?

      Brg

  • #1423
    DoC @
    DoC
    Participant

    Today we had good conditions in Sweden and the N1S took me to 85km/h. Not bad at all but also a bit scary…

    @Quben, thanks for sharing your experiences with the New replacement controller.   85km/h sounds scary.

    Did anyone of you who bought the https://www.ebuy7.com/item/574038970322

    replacement controller for 2018 V3   Managed to adjust the speed limits for the different gears?

    I would like to find a solution with maximum speed of 55-60 km/h.  Not too fast to make police interested in the scooter!  And at the same time not too slow to be blocking traffic!

    The speed limit of 45 km/h for EU scooters is causing more problems and accidents than a higher speed limit would do!

  • #1426
    Fredrik Svensson
    Fredrik Svensson
    Participant

    How fast/slow was the delivery when buying the controller from ebuy7?

    • #1430
      Eddy Current
      Eddy Current
      Participant

      Ebuy7 back orders from Taobao sellers. Took 4 working days, including 2 days shipment within China. Express from Honkong was another two days, so count on 10 days door to door.

  • #1431
    Jesus Morales
    Jesus Morales
    Participant

    Hello all,

    I found in German elektroroller forum a link to a tutorial about Mavericks control 72182HJ2X (same as ebuy7 product I guess)

    https://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhanlmotor.com%2Fh-nd-25.html%23_np%3D2_335&sandbox=1

    For chinese fluent speakers ;P http://hanlmotor.com/h-nd-25.html

    In the tutorial they talk about a harness to fit it into the scooter + all the software debugging + locked/unlocked modes

    Did any of you received and fitted the harness? (seems better than tape solution)
    What about the software?

    What about the locking functionalities? (some videos at the end of the page)

    Best regards

    • #1436
      Eddy Current
      Eddy Current
      Participant

      Not same product, I got HJ3A model from ebuy. It is a single replacement controller plus some adapter box.

      HJ3A does not have extra 6 pin socket for motor hall sensors.

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    • #1456
      Lukasz W
      Lukasz W
      Participant

      Were you able to successfully connect the ECU? I got mine today but I have no idea what to do with these both connectors. I Installed it and I got error 191 on the display and READY sign is already there on without pressing green button to activate it. NIU is not starting to ride

      Any idea?

      Thanks,

      Lucas

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    • #1459
      Sebastian Rothmayer
      Sebastian Rothmayer
      Participant

      Hello Lukasz,

      the cabling looks wrong.

      you must disconnect the Hall sensor cable and connect it with the new controller board.

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    • #1463
      Eddy Current
      Eddy Current
      Participant

      Were you able to successfully connect the ECU? I got mine today but I have no idea what to do with these both connectors. I Installed it and I got error 191 on the display and READY sign is already there on without pressing green button to activate it. NIU is not starting to ride Any idea? Thanks, Lucas

      Those 6 pin white connectors are for motor hall sensors. From your photo I guess that you have a post 03/2018 Niu. Do as pictured.

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    • #1465
      Lukasz W
      Lukasz W
      Participant

      Thank you very much for the hint, it worked. Once connected, LED in ECU started blinking and it was already a good message.

      Three points I realized:

      1. Cruise control is still working (I might seen that someone said that it stopped working)
      2. Ready Status via green Start button will pass over even if NIU has side stand open (before it was not possible)
      3. NIU is more “aggressive” and sensible which is a great feeling

      Test on the Stand is impressive!

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  • #1452
    Peter Beckers
    Peter Beckers
    Participant

    Hello there. I am new on the forum. I bought my  N1s in september.

    The speed was then max. 48km/u. My dealer was telling me that there was an upgrade that he could install. This upgrade he told me was for the M1 but maybe it worked also for the N1s.

    After the upgrade the speed was 53km/u, but when i reached this speed, the limiter dropped the speed down again to 48km/u.

    I saw the comment elswere on the forum about the magnet at the front wheel, and I compleetly removed the magnet.

    After that the speed gained up to 55km/u en did not reduce it anymore.

    It is maybe not possible, but I believe the tork was also better

    Greetings Peter.

    • #1453
      Jan Reiners
      Jan Reiners
      Participant

      Hi Peter,

      that sounds great. Can you maybe share some more information on that update? The 1000 km service will be done on my Niu N1S and with that information I could ask my dealer to get the same treatment 🙂

      Thank you and best regards
      Jan

  • #1462
    Peter Beckers
    Peter Beckers
    Participant

    Hi Jan,

    Just ask the dealer that you’ve heard that there was a upgrade for the M1 that also must work for the N1s. Some owners from the M1 has complained that their scooter where to slow, so my dealer has get the modification from the Niu.comp.

    So if you managed to get the modification, and you have the same problem what I have had, ( over 53km/u and then slowing down ) then you can remove the magnet on the front wheel, or place it a little bit higher. It fouls then the limmiter I think.

    Succes,

    Regards, Peter

  • #1479
    Suen GG
    Yuan G
    Participant

    After receiving my 17282 DC for the NIU N1S, I quickly tried to install it without any instructions on how to do so or whatever, I wasn’t patient enough to just wait until I got the instructions and then install it.

    Now my NIU doesn’t drive anymore, although everything else works the screen, switching modes, ready button, etc etc. Does someone know what I should do? I really hope the dealer can fix it.

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    • #1482
      Lukasz W
      Lukasz W
      Participant

      It looks like your 6 pin connectors are totally wrongly connected (I had the same problem yesterday, see above reply from Eddy Current).

      What you can try (and this helped me) is to connect 6 pin connectors again but keep in mind do it only like indicated on the pic. For No.1 (connect connector 1 with 1). Don’t connect No.2 with 2, leave them free!

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    • #1485
      Suen GG
      Yuan G
      Participant

      Even after doing what you said of connecting the 1 to 1 and leaving the 2 unconnected, the NIU still does not have “ready” and the “modes”. I suppose there’s something much worse wrong with my NIU since it doesnt even work with the original controller.

      Any advice on what I can do?

  • #1484
    Chris Johnson
    Chris Johnson
    Participant

    Hello there. Did someone know if you can update the N1S firmware after changing the controller, please?

  • #1486
    Suen GG
    Yuan G
    Participant

    Even after doing what you said of connecting the 1 to 1 and leaving the 2’s unconnected, the NIU still has the constant”ready” and theres no “modes”. I suppose there’s something much worse wrong with my NIU since it doesnt even work with the original controller.

    Any advice on what I can do?

  • #1490
    Anton Sjöqvist
    Anton Sjöqvist
    Participant

    Hi

    I have a 2017 Niu N1S. I have tried to read if there is a working controller for this model/year and EU-modell. Does anyone have this working on their bike? Witch controller works?
    Regards

    • #1492
      Eddy Current
      Eddy Current
      Participant

      See my post #1399 above. Most offers let you choose between pre 03/2018 and post 03/2018 models.

  • #1491
    Sunny B
    Sunny
    Participant

    just received the controller for my 2018 Niu N1.

    It is different than the ones you guys have on your photos. It is an “LBMC060182HJ3a-M6”. I can’t find it anywhere online. This is rated for 60v not 72 like the rest. What I noticed immediately:

    • acceleration from a standstill is no longer as smooth – the only negative thing.
    • it accelerates really well to 60
    • no more lag
    • takes longer to accept “ready”
    • the “r” symbol for regenerative braking stays on two seconds after stopping,
    • regenerative breaking as a whole is much much stronger!

    I was only able to take it for a quick spin.

    • #1493
      Eddy Current
      Eddy Current
      Participant

      Same here with 2017 model. Does side stand switch work?

    • #1496
      Sunny B
      Sunny
      Participant

      I haven’t tried but will report when I do!

       

      By the way, this controller is really well mapped. Mode 1 is uesless like always, but mode 2 accelerates to 51 km/h (so real 48, which is moped legal), and mode 3 took me to 68. Wouldn’t go higher.

    • #1503
      Sunny B
      Sunny
      Participant

      Side Stand switch does not work – meaning as long as “ready” is green, the motor will run.

  • #1508
    Ale Ale
    Ale Grif
    Participant

    hi guys!

    i value to buy new controller for mine N1s. i have to choose the model after 3 /2018 because mine is e4 model.

    question : speed max with other original parts will be?

    range real in km?

    other function of original model work again or there will be changes?

    and for “life” of motor, battery exct.. can i have problem?

    regards

    Ale

  • #1523
    Niusceptic Elings
    Niusceptic Elings
    Participant

    They have made some changes on the website of Ebuy
    See attached screenshot

    Someone knows what is what?

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  • #1525
    Ale Ale
    Ale Grif
    Participant

    i mean is the versione fo 2017 n1s

  • #1573
    John Mikel
    John Mikel
    Participant

    I bought the new controller installed it in 15 min can only fix one screw because it’s bigger. Looking now for a way to isolate it from water damage, thinking of gluing the box to the frame with some pattex one for all type of glue.

    Scooter now drives around 55 to 75 depending on road slopes but the overall feeling is now I can blend in the traffic no longer the turtle of em all ;))

     

     

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  • #1592
    Jonrellim
    jonrellim
    Participant

    I have thoroughly read this topic and I’m considering getting one too. In rural areas you sometimes have to be able to adjust to the higher speeds of other traffic.

    I have a 2017 N1S civic just like Eddy in earlier posts. It contains a Bosch motor. Seeing that he’s got the same controller mod from the ebuy website that’s probably my best guess to get.

    I wonder about one thing. Do the original controllers that are built into the scooter differ a lot depending on what country you’re in? Or are the controllers always the same? I’m in the Netherlands and I would like to be sure that that controller is fully compatible with my model. I prefer not to run into problems with connectors or wires not fitting.

    If someone here is from the Netherlands and has modded it as well, that would even be better to hear from.

    Here’s a picture of my current original controller under the saddle. Sidenote: for some reason there were already two connectors loose, one with a black cable and one with a green-yellow cable. Both have a white connector that seem to fit into each other exactly. Not sure what those are. Anyone know?

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  • #1636
    Matt Herb
    Matt Herb
    Participant

    Today I found this Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_in6aZtBiI

    Does someone know this programmer?

  • #1641
    Suen GG
    Yuan G
    Participant

    I’m in the Netherlands and have a 72182  at home that I have never used and im willing to sell it. I bought it off the eBuy7 link

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  • #1671
    Johan Symko
    johan symko
    Participant

    Bonjour à tous,
    Je m’appelle Johan je sors d’une école d’ingénieur et j’ai craquée la sécurité du NIU N1S. Je peux débrider votre véhicule sur paris sans aucune modification physique du véhicule. Le cout de l’opération est de 200euros la vitesse maximale après modification est de 65-70km/H lorsque la batterie est a 100% et l’accélération est fulgurante ! Si vous êtes interressé faites moi signe : symchowicz@gmail.com

  • #1672
    Jonrellim
    jonrellim
    Participant

    Okay, I’ve bought and installed the replacement controller from ebuy and the scooter runs fine, except for one small issue.

    The gear switch is not working at all. This is something I was afraid of before I tried it. I have a 2017 model which uses the 3 positional switch and according to people here, with the replacement controller it acts as a push button. By switching to 3 and back to 1 it should still switch gears that way. The difference is that on my scooter even before having the replacement controller my 3rd gear has never been used. It went to 2nd gear fine but 3rd just never worked. It stayed on 2nd as I pushed the button to 3. So with the replacement controller I can’t use anything but 1st gear.

    This lead me to believe the controller is installed fine but there’s something in the wiring of the button that makes the 3rd gear not work. With the service manual at hand I tried rewiring the 3rd gear wire to the 2nd gear connection point and vice versa, but nothing changed, it still doesn’t work.

    attached is an image of the wiring beneath the buttons on the right hand side of the scooter, as they were originally. also an image of the pin wiring instructions.

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  • #1675
    Eddy Current
    Eddy Current
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    jonrellim, I used the programmer to make controller boot with 3rd gear. No need for that switch.

    You never used 3rd gear? How fast did your NIU run?

  • #1676
    Jonrellim
    jonrellim
    Participant

    It was limited to 25 on each gear so all the 2nd and 3rd gear did was increase the power output until that limit. ie it would only accelerate faster. And I don’t have the programmer cable unfortunately. But if that’s the only workaround I may have to go get it.

  • #1677
    Frank Sagurna
    Frank Sagurna
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    Seems someone has a firmware to make the NIU faste just by flashing the Controller:

  • #1678
    Frank Sagurna
    Frank Sagurna
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    Seems like the video i posted is just a copy of this one. So be careful who you trust:

  • #1679
    Eddy Current
    Eddy Current
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    That is the NIU programmer which we probably will not get hold of as it will be provided to service personnel only. For replacement controller you can use any programmer with FTDI chip or clones thereof. Those are only a few $/€ on sources like aliexpress or ebay.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by Eddy Current Eddy Current.
  • #1684

    Hello together I bought a n1s 2017 and now the 72182 Controller There was a cable but all in China wrongly wired mun I would need the pin assignment in the lingbo controller can someone help me there Thank you

  • #1686
    Jonrellim
    jonrellim
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    Eddy, can you point me to somewhere they sell that specific usb cable I can use to program the controller? The sale page from the controller I have doesn’t seem to have that option, and most of the rest is in Chinese.

    This is the controller <span>https://www.ebuy7.com/item/574038970322</span&gt;

  • #1701
    Rens Hoekema
    Rens Hoekema
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    I have a n1s of 20-03-2018.

    What is the controller I should buy ? The first or second one ?

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    Thx

     

    Rens

     

     

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  • #1721
    Kim Alonzo
    Kim Alonzo
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    I connot get my 182 controller to work with my 2019 N1s. On 3rd gear it was only going for 33kph then when I release the throttle, it goes 50kph for a second (very dangerous). Anyone having the same problem?

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